If anyone finds the operation of airlines a fascinating topic, you might like Wendover Productions: https://www.youtube.com/user/Wendoverproductions
How airlines price flights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72hlr-E7KA0
The little plane war https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1YMPk3XhCc
Why planes don't fly faster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1QEj09Pe6k
The economics of Airline Class https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzB5xtGGsTc
How airlines schedule flights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGXahSnA_oA
I just recently found the channel. So much good stuff. (My unrelated favorite is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j48Z3W35FI0 How the US government will survive doomsday.)
"The greatest number of passengers ever carried by a commercial airliner is 1,088, by an El Al Boeing 747 during Operation Solomon, which involved the evacuation of Ethiopian Jews from Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, and started on 24 May 1991."
I recently travelled on one of BA's "refurbished" 747's and I hated every minute of it. Noisy, cramped facilities, find the A380, 777 and 787 far more comfortable for a long haul flight.
The 747 was amazing, when it was introduced, but it has now reached an age where it needs to retire gracefully, and point to point with twin engines is seeing to that.
Another way to get aboard one is to join Iron Maiden:
Given that the A380 seems to be doing so poorly, what has taken over in the big jumbo market? Or is it just that the big jumbo market is ceasing to exist altogether?
In a previous discussion, avar explains why United and Delta chose to mothball their 747s instead of retrofit them with the fuel tank interting systems that were required by the FAA after December 26th, 2017. UAL and DAL flew their planes right up to the deadline.
It will live on as a freight plane for a while, but yes the days of the “jumbo jet” for passenger travel are broadly coming to a close apart from a select few routes. The future is in large twin jets. Boeing knocked it out of the park there with the 787 and new 777 models.
Pretty sure there are US freight airlines that still use 747s.
Strange turn of events. I remember in the early 80's QANTAS was the only airline in the world who operated a purely all 747 passenger fleet. They are down to about a half dozen now I believe, and those are due to be phased out over the next few years.
*no US passenger airplane. Still cargo 747s in operation.
Shame, it's a beautiful kit. Plus the 747 has personal air fans to tune your cooling. The modern planes tend to have done away with those, meaning you're usually too cold or too hot.
not an airline, but global supertanker operates a firefighting 747 that was recently fighting the southern california wildfires http://globalsupertanker.com/
Only got to do it once, but the upper deck was nice: it felt like your own private plane. But as far as economy goes, the A380 wins, especially seat 48D.
Huh, I didn’t expect that to happen nearly so soon. I guess financial pressures will do that.
Are there any 707s still in service? What about the 720s and 727s?
If only they could run on just twin engines.
> but Pan American Airlines boss Juan Trippe wanted something special for his passengers, and he approached the aircraft manufacturer with a request for a plane that could carry twice as many passengers as its bread-and-butter long-haul model. In 1966, Trippe signed an order for 25 of the new passenger airliners. The first of these entered service in 1970, and the world would never be the same again.
This is one of those stories that is so often repeated it becomes truth. My issue is that it makes it sound as if Boeing took on creating the 747 because Juan asked for it and business wise there is no way it could have happened like that. But it sounds nice and the type of thing PR wise the press would repeat forever. It was probably more closely that there was a discussion between the heads of the two companies and then Boeing ran the idea by other airlines or did their research and decided it made sense to bet the company on building the 747 (which was another story that has been told time and time again 'the big bet'). I would suspect that Boeing didn't even have a signed commitment from Pan Am to even take on the enormous cost of the program (prior to the first order in 1966) as it wouldn't have made sense for Pan Am to pay anything and/or even guarantee any purchase without being able to get out of the contract w/o any penalties. So this is a bit different than when a ship is built to order for a cruise line because in that case it's a firm order and an order for 1 (or 3 whatever).
Not doubting that a version of this happened just that it sounds so romantic and unrealistic business wise.
If only we could say we also didnt operate any windows xp machines.
Hell it was only 5 years ago we still were running windows nt machines with a max version of dotnet 1.0
Isn’t the White House Air Service or however that is called also an airline?
Technically article title is incorrect and should be "...no US PASSENGER airlines operate the Boeing 747" -- UPS Airlines is US based and still operates the 747-400, it is just they are a cargo airline and not passenger.
Well, there is Air Force One that is a modified 747 and both are still flying.