I don't want this to be intended as harsh criticism of your idea, but let me share my experience with website builders:
- The market is extremely tough. Maybe you noticed how much advertisment squarespace and Wix do. The reason being that these pages typically have small businesses as customers. The issue with these type of businesses is that they go away quickly. Most don't survive 6 months. So you need new customers all the time to keep up with the high churn.
- You do not have price dominance. The price is very competitive and companies with huge backing (like Squarespace / Wix) will dominate you.
- The intended target audience is actually not that keen on doing everything themselves. They don't know about online marketing, SEO, or other "special skills". Actually, they just need someone they can call when they have an issue.
- Developers and agencies prefer open systems like Wordpress, Gatsby, or others. They also value a vivid ecosystem of plugins and themes. They typically don't commit to proprietary software, because you never know how long it will be around.
In any case, I wish you the best of luck with the product. It looks nice! I hope you can use my experiences to advance your business.
I get that this is easy, but there are 2 main cons:
1. It is $4 a month (that's a lot for a really a simple static page)
2. Vendor lock-in. These sites come and go and might not be around in a couple of years.
This is why I recommend Hugo hosted on netlify. Sure, it has a learning curve (but plenty of open source themes make it fairly easy). Hugo spits out plain HTML so there is no lock-in, and netlify hosts for free. If Netlify goes away, I can host somewhere else.
What browsers are you supporting and testing against, both for the editor and its output? For example, the text widget doesn't allow spaces to be typed on Firefox, which makes me wonder about the compatibility of the generated code.
Edit: Also, kudos for having such easy, frictionless access to the demo. I also really like the structural parity between the desktop and mobile versions.
Edit2: How are you picking which version (desktop/mobile) to show? Are you doing some kind of sniffing, rather than relying on media queries? I'm not getting the version I expect when I change the viewport's size in my DevTools: Chrome always gives me the mobile version in responsive mode, while Firefox always gives me the desktop layout unless I spoof a device's user agent string...
My mom has started several businesses (short attention span!) and so I've tried Unbounce, Squarespace, GoDaddy pages, various WordPress hosts (HostGator and BlueHost and others)...
This one looks like it's going for the Squarespace/Wix market.
I think what matters the most in that space is getting out of the box with a very nice looking template - Squarespace excels there! (heck, their current landing page says "Make it beautiful"). And they have a nice logo creator.
This one doesn't seem to have that much design in it. On the plus side, it does say "No signup to try out" (that's a huge plus, hope spammers don't abuse it) and "simplest", which is what I expect your target audience to like.
Edit: on the builder, I think you should emphasize starter templates more.
You should let the user go through the entire process of creating the page before you ask for money. Then they have the extra desire of wanting their finished thing.
(I started building a site and put in a form, only to be told that was a paid thing. Closed the whole thing and immediately came to write this.)
This is how the page looks on firefox on android http://imgbox.com/i6mbiHi5
Doesn't seem expected.
Android 8 + firefox 58.0. 2 + https everywhere & ublock origin extensions.
I've found carrd.co to be a great version of this. Super-simple templates. I think they allow more than one page, but very clean layouts.
The world is increasingly composed of computing devices that stay on 24 hours a day. Long gone are the days when only servers used to do this. Now most desktops have ~90% uptime while mobile devices are almost at 100%. Combine that with ever increasing, cheap bandwidth, I think the time is ripe more than ever for hosting your own simple, low traffic services including websites. The only obstacle here is that there still no simple setup wizard that can make them painless to host and take down, with a few clicks. A package that combines a simple, secured web server with a site builder.
This is the kind of thing I wish I thought of right when I saw it.
These naysayers are silly. The amount of investment you put into it will undoubtedly be offset by the passive income you generate with it, not to mention the fun/learning you did while building it.
Found a typo / grammatical mistake: Icons is an essiental part of modern web design. -> "Icons are an essential..."
Does anything stop me from building my page, copying the HTML and hosting it myself?
It's a good start. However, seemingly only tested on Chrome.
After playing around with it for a few minutes, I found some issues:
On Firefox, from a Clean State, add a Row, add Text, click H2, type some text, hit space, try to type more text: the space disappears
On Chrome: I don't seem to have full control over text spans. While I can use b/I/U/S on the current text selection, I was unable to set any other style attributes just for the selected text (i.e. what should boil down to a span tag), i.e. I wanted different colors for parts of my text.
Keep on hacking and I hope you'll have success!
Can’t watch the video on an iPhone, “The requested video is not allowed to be played in embedded players.”
Also, going directly to lonelypage.io doesn’t work.
Pretty nice. I'm still in the market for a good lander builder.
- I can't figure out how to change the image in a template, close to giving up
- more templates please
- and maybe more content in the templates (easier fill in or delete content than to figure out how to add new sections and content)
- I didn't read site that closely (who does), do I get the generated html etc? I'd like to host myself
- the "pick a palette" is great
Pretty sick! I'll be using a pro plan for a new project. BTW, gradients not working in mobile.
This is actually perfect. Needed a super quick landing page creator and you nailed it. If you're going to make changes then recommend you develop an API for page creation, perhaps a Zapier integration. Otherwise good on you!
I can't load the website. All I see is this :/
Cool site. If it'll go down anything like my own you'll get 30'000 views and like 3 buys, but no recurring revenue. You may be interested to read my experience: http://code.krister.ee/mybest-project-so-far-shutting-it-dow...
Don't think twice about contacting me :)
Cool editor, Undo/Redo is missing. I made similar SPA for other project and implement this feature in Redux pattern was a breeze
Some usability feedback: Adding a new element to the page (+) is the first action and it was hard for me to find it. It's likely also one of the most frequent functions you'll use, so I think this button should have way more relevance, at least on the same level as "Save".
Reminds me a bit of SabreCMS, despite the options being much more limited. And Sabre allows a full export of your entire site/shop/landingpage in case you want to self host after building - And it works with all browsers which seems to be an issue here. But nicely done.
You could try to compete with this guy: https://www.sitebuilderreport.com
He realized the world didn't want another site builder, so he just reviews all of the existing site builders. Pretty genius.
Great job! Very intuitive design. Much better than the majority of services I have tried before for simple pages I've wanted to put out.
Once a page is built and live, can the user then save the HTML and host it on their own server? (leaving the by: lonelypage logo at the bottom)
It's really discouraging that not even your own started page doesn't support SSL...
Now if I were to give you one piece of advice I would say, find a niche or a couple of niche industries that have specific needs and sell to them.
This can be anything from setting up an event and taking payment for it to creating a local sports group.
i came back to HN to thank you for putting this service. As a product manager often times i want to test ideas and i was able to put together something that looks nice using your product within an hour. I customized a template but the tools were pretty intuitive. It was so easy and pain-free that i immediately wanted to prototype another idea but seems i can only do one per account. Anyways, thanks and keep up the good work.
When I type in text, it doesn't remember spaces, for example: http://spacesmissing.lonelypage.io/
Why not use github pages?
Looks good. Still haven't had my coffee so this is all you are getting. Sorry.
The submit form zooms in on mobile (iOS). To avoid that the font size needs to be set at 16px.
Small bug with the text field: https://imgur.com/N7SVdMp
I've been looking at something like this to host a landing page for a book I wrote years ago. Great work, I'll give it a try.
The page builder tool is seriously impressive. I love that you've even covered things like image filters (blur, contrast, etc)
Did you forget the most important on your page?
Where's the button create my own page? How can I test your product? Is your product scam?
Couldn’t figure out how to sign up
Do a ICO or blockchain page generator for April 1st. I'm sure people will love it :)
for all the posts on firefox bugs, on firefox 61 everything seems to be functioning properly btw
How long will they be around? I'm kinda sick of putting up a page about some random thing then a couple of years later its gone.
no drag n drop?
"Icons is an essiental part..."
Also, proof readers.